Comments 240-259 - January 2004
Thanks to all members of the public interested in the Abbott Loop Extension Project. The comments are unedited except to remove personal information such as the name of the person commenting. These comments were received via mail, fax, email, at the public meeting held September 15, and telephone. Although the comment period for the Scoping Summary Report ended October 15, 2003, we will still accept comments after this date for the Environmental document.
240 I for one am entirely in support of this project. This extention will put the hospitals and universities closer (in driving time) to my home and relieve the burden of Lake Otis and Tudor. This has been needed for 20 years the money is avaialble now. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE build the road. Thanks
241 Please make sure you add a wide bike lane in both directions when you build this road. NOT just an adjacent bike path but a bike lane in the roadway. This will encourage commuting by bike and increase safety for road cyclists wanting to ride south and/or east to get in the mountains or down to the Seward highway. Presently about the only option for that is Lake Otis and you take your life in your hands there on a road bike. Thanx
242 I think its very unwise and foolish to have the 84th abbott loop area extension where it is right now. We have far to many accidents here as a resident who lives here. I mean I even had a car fly infront of my frontyard and crash into one of our trees. There was also a few crashes at the corner behind 84th. I mean if you lived here you would see grade school children walk across the street now they want to make it a highway? What kindof idea of safety is that? We take efficiency over children's safety? I find that very displeasing in alot of ways. There are other good arguments about nature and such however safety is a huge issue. I mean we already have alot of accidents here bringing the road closer to us will not only endanger us but the children at the school right across. Also with such expanison around here its hard to find a quiet place to live here. As much as traffic can be a problem. Are we going to throw safety out the window for that? I hope such plans are reconsidered and rethought before they carry though with this.
243 In addition to being a resident of the Abbott Loop community I am a user of its commercial facilities as well as its recreational facilities. Outside of my 40-hour a week job in downtown Anchorage I spend more than 85% of my personal time in the Abbott Loop area. I am representative of the group of people whose comments and concerns should be given great weight. My concers of this project and the areas which I believe should be given great weight in the development of this project are: traffic congestion in the Abbott Loop area as a result of the road development noise safety environmental impact decreasing impact of development on existing private property. While that was a general statement of my concerns of this project I would like to voice my specific concerns as they relate to my equestrian activities. I board my horse at the F Bar J stables located at Abbott Loop and Lore Road. Equestrians are not the only group that utilize the recreational site to the east of Abbott Loop Road; however the equestrian user group is one of the only user groups that is limited in choices of recreational facilities -- that limit being placed on us to Use Far North Bicentennial Par and other Abbott-area facilities. It is imperative that a safe crossing at Abbott Loop and Lore Road is afforded us and other user groups crossing Abbott Loop to ensure continued access to the trails in the park. Signal crossings are not sufficient for this purpose. While a tunnel under the road may suffice I question whether the environmental impact of a tunnel under the road would be as acceptable as a bridge at the Abbott Loop/Lore Road intersection. These comments may lead you to believe that I am in favor of this project. That is not true. I am a member of the group that is opposed to this project. The Abbott Loop and Lower Hillside area is rural and it is my belief that the residents of those areas wish them to remain along that vein. I believe there are other alternative that should be explored to relieve the perceived congestion from South Anchorage to the midtown/downtown area. I say perceived because the reality is that generally speaking you can get from one end of Anchorage to the other either North/South or East/West in under 45 minutes. My commute from Abbott Loop to downtown at the peak of a.m. or p.m. rush hour is no more than 30 minutes. That being said I think other alternatives that might be explored include widening the New Seward Highway.
244 IThe Abbott Loop Extension is long overdue. The only draw back that I see is that it should be extended North to connect with Norther Lights Blvd. This would have the effect of disbursing traffic over a wider range of roads in order to lessen the impact on Tudor Road. It should however help alleviate the traffic on the new Seward Highway which should also be expanded.
245 1. I disagree with the extension of Abbott Loop and believe existing corridors should be upgraded to meet traffic volumes. 2. If the P&N is to relieve congestion at Lake Otis & Tudor what other alternatives for that intersection were examined? 3. If it reduces Tudor voulumes by 15% this project represents temporary relief for 5 years before the facility is back to volumes that is has today. In 2010 Lake Otis/Tudor intersection will still require a grade separation and the new Abbott Loop intersection will interfere with the design. 4. New facility lane miles further stretch minimal State maintenance funds. 5. Anchorage should not have the mindset that the grid needs to be connected at the expense of valuable parkland. Park land is Anchorages' legacy and every effort should be made to avoid it. 6. If constructed this project will certainly lead to an effort to extend it through the University which is another adverse impact. 7. Wetland water table and wildlife impacts are too severe for mitigation.
246 A major concern is that Jupiter will be used as an alternate route when the traffic is backed up at the light on Abbott and Abbott loop. I don't have a solution other than to dead end Jupiter at Mars but that would be really inconvenient for Zodiak Manor residents. Another concern is access and egress for the ball fields...turn lanes and maybe even a traffic light may be needed there. I would also suggest that some of the proposed feeders from the subdivisions to the west of the project NOT be added. I think there will be a lot more use of this road than is projected...it will become the main route for anyone on the upper hillside heading north. Forcing some of the traffic to Lake Otis would not be a bad thing.
247 I am strongly in favor of the proposed extension. I am a 30 year resident of Anchorage and hike and cross-country ski in the Park. A am an avid wildlife advocate. Properly done a corridor will not disturbe the wildlife which can cross under the road at creek bridges (If high enough) and by walk-over bridges such as used in Jasper National Park in Canada.
248 As a resident of College Gate who often drives to mid-town one of my greatest frustrations is the awful traffic jam at Tudor & Lake Otis. It is simply unbelievable that a small town the size of Anchorage has such a congested intersection. When I lived in Dallas I regularly commuted through one of the 10 worst intersections in America as rated by a large insurance company. But believe me the traffic jams at that intersection in Dallas didn't hold a candle to the absolute mess that is Tudor and Lake Otis. The situation at Tudor & Lake Otis is simply intolerable. The Bragaw Extension should have been built 20 years ago around the time the Minnesota extension was built. For whatever reason it was not and we have had to suffer the consequences ever since. Some have argued that the Bragaw Extension will do violence to the moose geese fish and natural habitat. I disagree. anyone who has lived in Anchorage for more than a month knows there is no paved street or major artery in this town that can impede wildlife or diminish natural habitat. The City of Anchorage is safest cushiest place in the State to be for wildlife. Building one more arterial is not going to change that fact. What is so hard to understand? Moose cross roads. Birds walk or fly over roads. Fish swim under roads. Plants grow on the sides of roads. Microbes fungus and insects are ubiquitous--they don't know or care if a road is there. Please just get on with it and build the Bragaw Extension. The wildlife won't know or care but the rest of us who have to deal with Tudor & Lake Otis on a regular basis will be relieved of one of the great frustrations in our lives.
249 This extension is not necessarily the solution to congestion at Lk Otis/Tudor. A Tudor underpass at Lake Otis will remove most of the problem impact the neighborhoods less and cost about the same. If the project goes through (Bragaw extension) I am ADAMANTLY opposed to allowing ANY business development on the right of way. Anchorage has a terrible track record of allowing developers to put anything anywhere; DO NOT allow the existing single parkland (Bicentennial plus Campbell) to be separated and then nibbled away to nothing! It has already begun with the ballfields. I can already hear the developers salivating over this piece of real estate. If this extension goes ahead I believe the next step will be to extend Bragaw from Northern Lights to Tudor. This will eat another big piece of parkland. Where does this pave-the-world thinking end? Mass transportation and alternate forms of commuting will remove the same number of cars from the road that these extensions will support. I commute on my bike year-round and I know it can be done. The trails connecting Tozier Track and Bicentennial Park must remain accessible. Please include this in your overpass studies. Lastly this extension will destroy the #1 historically coldest place in Anchorage; the low spot in the park. It will be sad to see that gone. Are we sure we want to go there with this city's planning?
250 1. I looked at the drawings in the Service High cafeteria last evening (Jan. 5) and saw no plans for any pedestrian access. I read most of this website (I could not plow through all of the comments) and under Scope I saw no provisions for pedestrian crossings. It seems logical to me that some safe pedestrian access somewhere between 80th and 84th to the ballfields and trails is a minimum necessity if we want to keep from killing someone especially in the dark of winter. See comment 18 ; I agree with it. 2. I and anyone who drove through th Lake Otis/Tudor intersection 30 years ago knew that this was a problem intersection that would only get worse and worse with time. A 15% reduction in peak traffic is not going to make that much difference but the political die has been cast. 3. This project is going to create problems downstream like on Abbott Rd as people use Abbott Loop to try to bypass Lake Otis/Tudor. Think new pressure to upgrade Abbott more and extend it south. Have you ever tried to get onto Abbott when Service High gets out? Think traffic jams with the added volume. Think more traffic lights to enable people to get onto (and off) Abbott and Abbott Loop.
251 I think the extension is in dire need and ... obviously doesn't do much driving around Anchorage to say it would be a dead end. It would relieve a tremendous amount of congestion. As far as the environmental impact goes I think the planners will do a fine job creating the least amount of impact. As far as where you live Mr. .... What have you got to say about the foundation your house sits on? I suppose a few trees had to be cut down to gain access to your driveway as well. I hardley think a TGIF will adorn any of this land possibly Eagle River but that's another project. I say Go For It.
252 I been here for more then twenty years and watch Anchorage grow. Yes there are more vehicles on the road. And yet more to come. Anchorage is losing growing space. If you look at Anchorage twenty year ago we were happy to expand. Expand is good for business. Also if Tudor and Lake Otis have an vehicle accident tying up traffic on Lake Otis. The only way south is going to the New Seward Highway or the Old Seward Highway to go south of Anchorage. We move out of BIG cities only to see this city growing. Let her grow. We can't see everything.
253 1) the new section of the road beginning at 48th throught to 68th. It was mentioned last night that this section of the road may fall under MOA management (and I assume ownership). If this is true the state should realize that the MAO has different road design standards than the state. i.e. during the presentation Stuart show a slide that depicted a cross section of the new portion of the road. The driving lanes were shown as 10 feet wide. I believe the MOA requires new roads under their management to have 12 foot wide driving surfaces. This may create a problem. What I'm not sure about if the 12' wide is needed for opposing traffic and 10' may be appropriate for travel in the same direction. Slide also showed a shoulder of 0-4' This is way to narrow essentially you have no breakdown lane. At a minimum the shoulder should be 6' wide. 2) Alternative B & D appeared to have the same approximate cost. It that realistic alternative D only calls for spot improvements from 68th to Abbott Road and alternative B calls for a totally rewoking of that section of road widening to 3 lanes and possibly relocating the road further east. 3) During the previous public meeting it was brought to DOWL's attention that the road project itself did not recieve a 67% approval rate the state bond package got that voter approval rate. DOWL was asked to correct that misinformation but I see it reappeared again as a major talking point at last nights meeting. If you want to used the 67% figure please don't misrepresent the facts. Simply say this project was included in the statewide bond proposition (include the year?) and the bond proposition received a 67% voter approval rate and let it go at that.
254 1) This web page is inadequate. None of the alternatives are presented here. Why not? 2) The meeting page simply gives you a list of people who attend meetings not the times and dates of the meetings. 3) To date this plan has failed to address: a) Noise pollution for the affected people living along the road. Would you want a four-lane express way put in your front yard with no noise control? Well I don't either. b) Emissions from vehicles and particulate. Does anyone plan on controlling it? Measuring it? c) Lighting. One of the reasons that I bought a house where I did was so that I would not have street lights glaring in my windows at night. So I propose that special lighting be required taht not disturb surrounding areas. d) Crime. More people more trails more baseball fields = more opportunity for crime. Who is going to address this issue. How are you going to address it? e) My property values. My once cherished view of the mountians will now become a view of street lamps and highway. Do I get reimbursed for this loss? After all when I purchased my home I was told that I was bordering a greenbelt. Now I get to live next to an expressway. Will the State declare eminente domain and pay me fair market value for my home (before the highway)? In closing if this must go through...so be it. However I think those of us affected greatly by this project deserve some consideration that includes noise control pollution control lighting control and an opportunity to have the State purchase our now devalued houses at market value before this thing came in. Fair is fair and I should not have to have my quality of life lessened so someone else can have theirs improved. So please for those of us who are going to be within 1000 feet of this thing give us some respect and let us have some choices so we can have the quality of life we desire as well.
255 My backyard is a adjacent to Abbott Loop. The reason for moving to this area is because it is quiet (little traffic) and less developed (encourages outdoor activities in Campbell Tract). I am not opposed to punching Abbott Loop through but would like to see the traffic controlled by reducing the speed limit to 35mph in the current residential areas. I am very concerned with plans for keeping traffic noise to a minimum. I would have bought a house off of Lake Otis Abbott or O'Malley if I wanted to listen to traffic all day. Reducing the speed limit would allow traffic to flow as planned minimize traffic noise promote safe driving and provide safe crossings across Abbott Loop for moose lynx coyotes pets and people (yes all have been spotted crossing Abbott Loop road in the past 2 years). With the new ballparks there will be more young kids and family pets in close proximity to the road. Reduced speed limits would maintain a residential community similar to the one located at the end of Lake Otis (i.e. Westwind Dr).
256 Definitions from the New World Dictionary: City: A center of population more important than a town or village. Wilderness: An uncultivated uninhabited region. Homosapien: Modern man mankind human being. I believe it is time we start paying more attention to the homosapiens. Our lakes and streams are polluted with duck and goose droppings to the point that our kids cannot swim in them without being infected with the related parasites. Moose are trampling and killing our citizens on our campuses and roads. Geese are causing aircraft accidents and deaths. Bears are invading our backyards. Believe me I get as excited as any when I see a wild animal in our neighborhood. However I also realize that I do not have to go too far to see these wild animals in a true wilderness setting. I have been here for over 40 years and know that no matter how many roads we build or how many conveniences we provide to the citizens (city) of Anchorage we will always have wild animals in our midst. If an approved and needed road project like the Bragaw extension is within the City limits there should be no need for further discussion! JUST DO IT !!!!
257 1. I have not heard any comments/suggestions about educating people to use Dowling to head west from Lake Otis. This millions of dollar project was meant to help traffic in some way but its recommended use seems to be ignored. The media should report on this aspect as an alternative to turning west on Tudor from Lake Otis. 2. The Abbott loop extension just puts more traffic on Tudor. If there was an overpass/underpass at Lake Otis and Tudor I could understand that the Abbot extension might help the Hillside residents. But if there is still a stop light at LO &T the traffic backup will be tremendous. It already backs up at Bragaw/Tudor now; traffic turning west from Abbott Loop/Bragaw would even make the backup worse. 3. I have an architect friend who suggested to me to make a tunnel under Tudor. There could be entry/exits at Bonniface Bragaw (for UAA and Prov Hosp) Lake Otis New Seward and C streets. The lanes could be reversable - 3 lanes running west in the morning and 3 lanes running east in the afternoon. The upper area of Tudor would be used for local traffic/business access. I think this is an excellent idea. When I head west I usually exit Tudor at C street. Having a straight shot from the Boniface area would be wonderful. There would be no wetland problems because there is already a road corridor; no bridges over salmon streams would have to be built. The tunnel even could have a toll to help pay for it like bridges in other cities. (People would be spending the money they waste in gas waiting in stopped traffic. $.25 would seem reasonable). 4. Hillside residents who live near the following steets(DeArmoun Huffman O'malley Abbott) should be using these roads for access to the New Seward Highway not Lake Otis. 5. I did not vote for this statewide road proposal because of the Abbott extension. I use the Hillside trail systems in summer and winter. To lose this wilderness would be a tragedy to the current and future residents of Anchorage.
258 I would be very supportive of this project if it was a TRUE parkway. Where I grew up on the East Coast parkways were a delight to drive and there were very large buffers between them and the residential neighborhoods they went through (Example: Merritt Parkway Connecticut - you could not even SEE the opposing lanes from the lane you were driviing in). And best of all trucks were not allowed on parkways only passenger vehicles. What Anchorage calls a parkway is a joke or rather a disaster. Lake Otis should be renamed Lake Otis Speedway or Lake Otis Crashway - it is a very dangerous road and isn't getting any better. Boniface Parkway is another one - what an ugly road!! I would hate to see the rural Abbott Loop community destroyed by the typical Anchorage road. Build a REAL parkway and I think more people would welcome this project. Build a parallel Lake Otis and the neighborhood is doomed. Build it right do your best to preserve the parkland this road must go through and respect the residents on both side of the road who have chosen to live there for the rural qualities. Or don't do it at all (there is a no-build solution right?)
259 I would like to see a buffer where feasible for the homes located on Abbott Loop that will be affected. Use the State land to build the road and put up some beautification (trees etc.) between the road and the houses.
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