Comments 21-60 - September 15, 2003
Thanks to all members of the public interested in the Abbott Loop Extension Project. The comments are unedited except to remove personal information such as the name of the person commenting. These comments were received via mail, fax, email, at the public meeting held September 15, and telephone. Although the comment period for the Scoping Summary Report ended October 15, 2003, we will still accept comments after this date for the Environmental document.
21 I am writing this letter to support the proposed extension of Abbott Loop Road to Bragaw Street. I realize that a lot of my neighbors oppose this road, but I feel it is important that another north south road be developed on the southeast side of Anchorage east of Lake Otis Parkway. Abbott Loop Road is the logical extension to provide this road, because any further eastward proposal would impact a lot more parklands and wetlands. I only support this extension if a considerable amount of mitigation is done to offset the damages to the wetlands and the North and South Fork of Campbell Creek. For part of the mitigation, I recommend that non-development conservation easements be acquired along those reaches of the North Fork of Little Campbell Creek that haven't been developed yet. If possible a trail should also be developed along this same creek where feasible. These easements should be acquired before construction can start on the proposed extension of Abbott Loop Road. I also feel that the city of Anchorage should commit to adding a new bus route that will run along Abbott Loop from Bragaw at University (36th Street) south to the furthest extension of Abbott Loop. I believe that it is planned to extend Abbott Loop southward from Abbott Road to at least Huffman Street, if not further, because of the new high school that is being built on Elmore. Abbott Loop should be extended all the way south to Rabbit Creek Road. I also support the renaming of Abbott Loop Road to Martin Luther King Road.
22 I'm strongly in favor of this project. I like the look of the map handout. This road will help reduce traffic in south east Anchorage.
23 1) The F-Bar-J Ranch, a horse boarding stable, needs safe access to the trails in BLM and Bicentennial Park. An overpass or underpass? 2) The wetlands south of Tudor need to be crossed with a causeway, not fill with culverts. 3) The drainage swale on our property near Abbott Loop and Lore Road needs to be maintained in its present location so we don't lose our duck pond. 4) Take as much property as you can from the east side of Abbott Loop for the road improvements to limit the loss of the tree buffer on our side of Abbott Loop between Lore Road and 80th.
24 I strongly agree with this project.
25 We like to see the road extended, Bragaw to Abbott!! We own property at 6130 Abbott Rd. Please extend Bragaw to Abbott!!
26 Statement 1, 9/15/03: I am against the proposed Abbott Loop Extension. The effect on the flora and fauna of the park would be great. Wolves, black and brown bear, eagles, goshawks, fox, moose, and many other species of birds and mammals would be affected. The need would increase the moose/car collisions in the park. Salmon: King, Red and Silver would lose spawning and rearing habitat. A large swath of trees would have to be cut down. The best use of the park is for recreation- skiing, bicycling, wildlife viewing and hiking. Please do not allow this road to go through.
Statement 2, 9/15/03: I am totally against the Abbott Loop Extension Project being put through Bicentennial Park! I use the park for biking in the summer and skiing in the winter. I am very much against the loss of wetlands and habitat in the park. I often see wildlife in the park and know that a road would adversely impact the wildlife. Road kills of moose for example would increase tremendously. The park would be unsuitable for bears and recreational activities would be severely curtailed. Please mark me down ad a 30-year Anchorage resident against the park road. Thank you.
27 3 [concerns] about the speed of traffic on a road of this size with or without a traffic light: how are you going to slow thru traffic? What is [your] plan for [safety] of people bikes and horseriders? How are you going to build bridges with little [environmental] impact on wildlife? I am opposed to this road [cul de sacing] Jupiter, 64, 63. Noise amounts in neighborhood with [increased] traffic safety of people on side roads with no sidewalks amount of traffic that will be using this short cut to get from north to south [Anchorage].
28 We are concerned about the residential streets of 67th, 66, 65, 64. Right now they are open to what we call the "Bumpy Road" (Ruth). We want to know what the plan is about "capping" off these residential streets like the A/C couplet. What about a walk over (or under) to get to Campbell Creek Area/Science Center? A walk over from the above area to Kasuun (crossing 68th) by Winchester.
29 Parkway type of design- raised over wetlands and trails. Parking pullouts to allow access by people (pedestrians not snow machiners) to the park land and trails. Needs some curvature for traffic calming and appearance. Parking pullouts should be in at least 2 different sections through the parkland. Open space land - There should be at least 1 to access the east side of road and 1 to access the area on the west side of roadway. They should not be directly across from each other. I would prefer this be done in phases beginning with 68-48 section. Traffic Calming would need to encorporated into existing Abbott Loop Rd. While it may not have traffic volume it does have high speed too high for the area. Also on Abbott Loop Rd don't put sidewalks, use trails on at least one side. On both sides if possible. While street lighting may be good but it [affects] the rural atmosphere of the area - maybe atmosphere of the area maybe we could keep the lighting to a minimum - or be sure it's "down lighting." Don't forget to include social economic impacts in the environmental [assessments].
30 Support option 1A with 4 lane divided would like trailheads. Should continue the concurrent development of Dowling connection. Develop a long range development plan for Bicentennial Park including additional growth to the new community park would desire a separated pathway that meanders through the park on the eastside improve on a greenbelt plan for the creek.
31 Design must accommodate: Pedestrian/Trail use traffic; turning traffic and traffic control devices; minimize noise to neighborhoods; provide for a traffic grid system (East-West); include landscaping. If the section North of E. 68th Avenue is constructed, then the section south of E. 68th Ave. must be reconstructed and improved for safety. Dowling extension must be completed at the same time the connection to Tudor is opened for traffic.
32 Build it already! Do it right - sidewalk/trail on both sides - pocket parks so we can enjoy the streams and park. Make sure we have good connection between Abbott Loop and Tudor Rd.
33 Keep me posted and/or contact me in regard to project impacts on Chugach's transmission line.
34 1) This project will not solve the Lk. Otis/Tudor problem, if anything it will add to it by putting more cars onto Tudor to go into town. 2) Lk Otis/Tudor could be fixed by making a clover leaf that should have been done 20 years ago. 3) If this road goes through consideration should be made for a clover leaf at Dowling and Abbott Loop NOW before a Lk Otis/Tudor situation developing again!! 4) Also the intersection at Abbott/ Abbott Loop (clover leaf) consideration again. 5) Another intersection impacted Tudor/Bragaw. Light vs cloverleaf again. We need to make traffic flow not stop at lights. 6) Why are we putting more traffic into a community setting?
35 You need to take a look at noise reduction for houses that back up to Abbott Loop Rd. Make sure that you make plans to include the following roads- Dowling, Tudor, 36th. Include “Emergency” turn off lanes. Make sure there is plenty of lighting along this section unlike present Abbott Loop Rd. Include permanent speed bumps to prevent speeders and speed related traffic accidents. Make road improvements on Abbott Lp South of E 68th. Abbott Lp Survey is LESS THAN 5% RETURN.
36 1st Statement, 10/15/03: Leave the Abbott Loop section south of Dowling as it is. This is a rural family neighborhood. Many of us moved to this part of town for the quiet and nearby access to far north Bicentennial Park. If you build a larger road it only attracts more traffic i.e. it would pull traffic to this part of town.
2nd Statement, 9/15/03: What you need to realize is that "we" the Anchorage citizens have not said that we want this project at all! It has been assumed that just because the money has been “voted” for that this particular project is desired. More input from the community is necessary! This meeting is not appropriate. We’re speaking with the Engineering Firm hired to do this project. Is it a done deal?!
37 Concerns: Residential access; How will traffic be handled at Bragaw and Tudor; Access to new ball fields (Abbot Loop Community Park); Intersection controls-which ones; Lighting- Access for dog mushers; Who will be responsible for maintenance after completion.
38 1) If the extension must go through side streets such as 65, 66, 67 should not be through streets! These are residential neighborhoods- speed limit 25 mph with children. Blocking the side streets is essential! 2) Should be overpass from 68th over proposed road to BLM land for recreational purposes and crossing a major road could be dangerous- especially for elementary school children. 3) Listening to the engineers I think they have underestimated how much traffic you are generating by opening Tudor to Abbott Road!! Your design is for a 3-lane road-not big enough!
39 1st Statement, 9/15/03:I despise this road with all my heart and tax voting ability. My concerns are multiple: 1) The environmental demolishment of our wetlands 2) public access from our neighborhood to Campbell tract SAFELY 3) dead ending E 64th, E65th, e 66th, and E 67th and 4) creating a massive road and destruction of nature as the city of Anchorage has done with the so called “Abbott Loop Community Park”- they wiped it out! All of that beautiful land- gone.
2nd Statement, 915/03: I just came from your so called Public Scoping Meeting at Kasuun Elementary. This most certainly not was a Public Information meeting it was a Public You Listen to Us meeting. True the speakers were well informed from their end the presentation was well laid out etc. However as far as the public comment segment the mic when it worked as it were pierced everyone's ears and most of us could not hear even a small portion of the person's questions. Of course we could hear THE DOWL/MOA folks telling US what THEY wanted us to hear! People have some very real concerns!! Are folks with homes along Ruth Ave and Abbott Rd going to loose their homes and/or portions of their land on the west side of this extension? How are property values going to affected? What about safe access to Far North Bicentennial Park and the multitude of people who currently DO utilize it's lovely park setting? How safe will it be to cross an extremely busy street as is being currently planned? What is the time line for construction of this extension? How will it affect E 64th E 65th E 66th and E 67th streets? Will these streets be deadended or will we have stoplights at the end of them? At the very least set up a meeting so that we will BE ABLE TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS CONCERNS ARE to do just that. And at the very least to all of you: LISTEN TO US. Although in all honestly from the demolishing of the trees and land for the so called Abbott Loop Community Park. I very seriously doubt the DOWL/MOA folks will hear barely a word. As one person in the audience said It's already a done deal. Thank You.
40 You need a master plan! This project will probably create as many problems as you are attempting to solve. Urban planning is a science, not a game of darts.
41 Either 1B or 2 would be great! Build it. We need it.
42 1) Additional scenarios needed! Scenario 3 looks the best. By reducing length of the project (as in scenario 2) and using already cleared corridor more $ can be routed toward bridges. Possibly scenario 3B. 2) Most roadways in the Mid West share corridors w/major water lines, gas lines, and electric lines. This saves space and construction costs and ease of access for repairs to those utilities. 3) Also, I think making Dowling the main connection is a much better idea. This will improve E-W traffic as well as N-S. 4) Best option- DO NOTHING.
43 A four (4) lane road will help. The twenty five (25) year traffic needs makes this imperative. Anything less than this is a waste of money. It will have to be expanded later. In the last 26 years the population and traffic is about four or five times what it was in 1977-78! The addition of the ball parks when completed will greatly add to the conjestion.
44 1) I am in favor of the project provided it is done in an environmentally sensitive manner and traffic congestion on Abbott Loop is not worsened. 2) Perform a traffic analysis and ensure adequate traffic movement on Abbott Loop, including in and out of Abbott Loop Community Park. A four lane Abbott Loop is desirable. At a minimum, Abbott Loop should have a two way left turn lane.
45 1) Abbott Loop Road south absolutely must be replaced/expanded in any scenario approved! No/inadequate shoulders, dips, frost heaves, etc. is prevelant all along the south corridor. This section of road cannot effectively handle 3000 vehicles at present- dangerous! 2) Effective/safe turning must be considered on the Abbott Loop South corridor.
46 My paramount concern is the increased traffic that will result on Abbott Loop Rd. This road is dark, narrow and full of moose and critter crossing. Please work improvements into the full scope of the project to the existing roadway! I welcome the extension in general and applaude the fact it is finally going to happen! Anchorage is growing and we need to accommodate the increased traffic volume!
47 My preference of the choices is Scenario 2. The wetlands is a precious gift to Anchorage. Once a road, especially a bridge is built and the people uses it become dependent on the route If the bridge is not built with expansion and with enough caution to the economic system it will need redoing. It is a precious gift to live in a city that keeps so much of wildlife within its city boundaries. Let’s keep it alive. This option accomplishes the greatest need, which is the need of traffic to go from Dowling and NE.
48 1) Phase add an underpass between 80th and 84th so that kids in those neighborhoods (very high density) can safely cross Abbott Loop to access the beautiful new Simonian Fields. 2) Please put a wide (8’ minimum) sidewalk all along the east side of Abbott Loop in order to keep recreaters and kids off of the street. 3) Add 1 to 2 more 20-25 car parking lots on the east side of Abbott Loop so that recreaters can park safely off the road and access the parks. I suggest across from Dowling Extension and Lore Road (76th Ave.)
49 Of the scenarios presented, I prefer the 1B scenario.
50 On the Abbott Loop Ext I would suggest cut and cover. With some overpasses.
51 For the benefit of all of Anchorage, please connect Tudor to Abbott Loop ASAP. The road should be a 4 lane parkway with trails and park access/trailheads. I would hope the land in both sides of the road would remain parkland or be designated parkland.
52 I understand that the East bound p.m. rush hour traffic on Tudor will not be relieved by this project. I work in Midtown and reside in Zodiak Manor, but will not be able to utilize the extension because it does not address the midtown traffic problem Lake Otis and Tudor.
53 I like the Abbott Loop Extension. I would like to see the Dowling Extension and use 48th Avenue to go to Boniface rather than across Bragaw.
54 1) Please schedule next meeting at Service High so people can park! 2) I am all for the Abbott Loop extension. The North-South travel using Lake Otis is way past being awful- it is dangerous. We are a city and we are bulging at the seams. We need to make it safer for more people to move across this city. The things that make this city livable for parents and children ie after school activities are becoming impossible to schedule when you have to go across town. I am tired of the environmentalists restricting or stopping projects that benefit children and parents. I think we ought to put 4 lanes on the northern section.
55 Public safety of course being an issue, my assumption is that there are several streets along Abbott that could safely be dead-ended, thus minimizing the impact to the neighborhoods. Now for the NIMBY part… 64th would be a perfect example of just such a street. The only way for emergency vehicles to safely get to the east end of 64th is the way they would now. The “back way” is raught with pit holes the size of the Atlantic and narrow enough one could not safely traverse it at a high rate of speed. Plus, I have a 3 year old son I would like to see safely to kindergarten. I realize this road will happen through I disagree w/ the necessity. Please do what is possible to keep the neighborhood we chose to build our house in safe.
56 The Skijor Club, NASSPA, recently passed a resolution to support the Bragaw extension ONLY IF the portions of the road through the wetlands, trail crossings and stream crossings are done on overpasses, not tunnels. Long term, historical use of the trails by mushers, skiers, and skijors should not be impeeded by tunnels. Long term maintenance of roads built in wetlands should be considered in the long term cost of the project- refill and repaving could cost a lot over time vs the initial cost of overpasses. Tunnels are very difficult to keep snow in. The economics of the cost that mushing brings to the community needs to be considered before these trails are damaged by tunnels vs overpasses.
57 No Comments
58 I am opposed to the extension. If this road is pushed through and people upon coming to Tudor would make a left and proceed west there would be more traffic going west on Tudor before Lake Otis clogging up the Tudor/Lake Otis interchange. It would just shift the traffic from making a left hand turn onto Tudor at Lake Otis to making a left at Bragaw and the same amount of traffic would end up at the Tudor/Lake Otis intersection.
59 My main concern is for the moose and wildlife. I travel all over the USA and have seen a great solution to this problem in the Little Rock area and in the Mobile Al. area. There are miles of raised concrete highways and interstates that virtually leave the wetlands and wildlife untouched when the roads are completed. This would be perfect for this project as the traffic would be 15-20' over the surface. Everything below would still function as it does today. I believe it would be worth the additional cost (if any) to build a raised highway over the most critical areas.
60 I have several comments after taking the survey: 1. Abbott Loop residents currently access the BLM land along many unofficial trails between 68th and Abbott Road. Multiple grade separated access points should be a consideration as part of this project. 2. I could envision this road receiving 15-20k vehicles per day if completed as proposed. I believe that the intersection with Abbott road will become a major bottleneck. with the majority of the southbound traffic heading east at this point. A left hand turn lane that backs up for a mile will be unacceptable. 3. I believe this project to be a Band-Aid to Anchorages transportation needs. What is really needed is a highway style connection between the Glenn/Seward Highways with no stoplights. This may seem to be a painful option now however it will only become more so as time goes on and Anchorage becomes more developed. 4. I believe that the State should perform a Real Estate Market Analysis to quantify the loss in property values as a result of construction of a major thoroughfare through this relatively quiet/safe area A reimburse owners for their loss. If I wanted to live adjacent to a Lake Otis then I would have purchased a house there.
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